Skip to content

An hypothesis about RT3 – did you know you might have a hidden pool of it?

arrowPlease note this is a HYPOTHESIS, based on limited information, from 2014, and not to be taken as gospel.

Everyone makes Reverse T3 (RT3)–an inactive thyroid hormone. It’s a way to clear out excess T4 when your body isn’t needing that extra storage hormone. i.e. instead of the T4 converting to the active T3, your body (and specifically your liver), will convert it to RT3. If someone without a thyroid problem gets the flu, up goes the RT3 to conserve energy. If someone has a bodily injury, up goes the RT3 to conserve energy.

And thyroid patients seem to see their RT3 go up in the presence of low iron or a cortisol issue.

But if you think about it, why doesn’t it go down faster when we decrease our T4? T4 has a half life of one week, yet it can take 8 – 14 weeks for RT3 to go down. Hmmmmmm…

Thyroid patient Sebastian from Germany sent me this information about Reverse RT3 that I find fascinating. What do you think?

*******************

I’m studying biology and chemistry and have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis with high RT3. I just wanted to inform you about an interesting idea/hypothesis I have found.

There seems to be a “hidden pool” of RT3 in the human body. This RT3 pool can increase in size while enough T4 is available, and then secrete RT3 in times where the body needs it but hasn’t got enough T4 to produce it via deodination (the removal of an iodine molecule).

“It is concluded that a hidden pool of RT3 production exists in vivo in man.”
“It would appear that hypertrophy of this hidden pool of rT3 production occurs in high T4 states […]”

Source: LoPresti et al., “Does a hidden pool of reverse triiodothyronine (rT3) production contribute to total thyroxine (T4) disposal in high T4 states in man.”, J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1990 May;70(5):1479-84. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2335581

I have made observations regarding  my own thyroid blood tests and the blood tests of other patients that seem to support this hypothesis. I have been on T3-only for 6 weeks now, started with an RT3 of 330 pg/mL at approx. day 0, and now have measured a RT3 of 685 pg/mL (twice as much!), even though my TSH is low, FT4 has fallen rapidly to 0.5 ng/dL, and no T4 medication has been taken for full 6 weeks.
Another patient I know has also made interesting correlations between FT4 and RT3. He isn’t on T3-only, but observed a time-delayed (!) correlation between both values – which could be interpreted as an indicator for the presence of an RT3 storage pool in the body, that grows when enough T4 is available, and sets RT3 free in times when there is less T4 available.

I also found studies which found that RT3 has a 1000 times less feedback on the TSH than T3 has, and 100 times less than T4. This could explain any differences between TSH and symptoms, as the “RT3-system” seems to be almost completely isolated from the thyrotropic regulation system (the latter is that which directly influences the secretory activity of the thyroid gland).  RT3 can obviously rise and fall without having (almost) any effect on the TSH.

Source: Cettour-Rose et al.: “Inhibition of pituitary type 2 deiodinase by reverse triiodothyronine does not alter thyroxine-induced inhibition of thyrotropin secretion in hypothyroid rats”, European Journal of Endocrinology (2005) 153 429?434.

In combination, this could explain why the clearing process of RT3 takes approx. 8-14 weeks, although T4 has a plasma half-time of only 8 days, and rT3 only 4.5 hours!

The intracellular T3 receptors aren’t “clogged”, and then suddenly become free after that period of time has elapsed. Instead, RT3 is a competitive inhibitor of T3, meaning it constantly goes in and out of the T3 receptor. You probably know that already.

Patients report feeling well with T3 only dosages of approx. 80-120 µg T3 per day. According to Celi et al., 2010, this would be equal to 240-360 µg of T4. I always wondered why they don’t end up feeling hyper.

This all makes sense now under the assumption that a hidden RT3 storage pool exists somewhere in the body. Although there is no new T4 being produced or taken in, and although the remaining T4 and RT3 have both decayed rapidly after one starts with the T3 only method, there is still alot of RT3 being set free by the storage pool all the time. This storage pool might be big enough to last for several weeks to months. Since RT3 is the competitive inhibitor of T3, this might be why patients are able to tolerate (and even need) so very large amounts of T3.

Then, after the storage pool has been emptied, the remaining RT3 rapidly decays because of its short half-time and no new RT3 can be produced because no T4 is available in the body. Therefore, RT3 concentrations within blood and cells drop. Thus, the competitive inhibition gets a lot weaker at that point, and patients start feeling hyper because the same amount of thyroid hormones (T3) is now significantly increased in its effect, since it can stay much longer in the T3 receptors without being competitively inhibited (kicked out of the receptors) by RT3.

This process of totally emptying the RT3 storage might occur very quickly, therefore the drop in RT3 concentrations is very suddenly, all of which might happen within several days. And this is why patients then get hyper and have to reduce their dosage to half or less of what they’ve taken previously over the 8-14 weeks.

“Clogged receptors” don’t make sense because RT3 is a competitive inhibitor, capable of traveling in and out of the T3 receptor all the time.

“Clearance” occurring after 8-14 weeks, although both educt (T4) and product (RT3) have significantly (!) shorter lifetimes, doesn’t make sense either.  Neither does a totally defective TSH lab test, because in principle, it worked fine for all the patient’s lifetime before they got their thyroid disease; and because significant correlations between TSH and FT3 and FT4 can be observed.

This all makes sense to me now, based on two assumptions:

1. While T3 and T4 have a strong negative feedback effect on TSH secretion, RT3’s effect on the TSH secretion is minimal, being about a thousand times smaller in effect than that of T3, and about a hundred times smaller in effect than that of T4….as described in the study of Cettour-Rose et al., 2005, mentioned above.

2. The body has a large, previously unknown storage for RT3. This storage can grow while enough T4 is available, and the storage’s content can be set free when needed. As described in the study of LoPresti et al., 1990, mentioned above.

I hope you can use this information for further research. Thanks for reading.

******

* Think Natural Desiccated Thyroid makes you worse? See correctible reasons.

* Are you correcting everything you should be? See what your ducks in a row should be.

* STTM has an active Facebook page! Come on over for tips and information!

* The STTM book comes in English, Spanish, German and Swedish…so far. 🙂

* Did you know you can order your OWN labwork?? Yup.

The dark ages in the United Kingdom–don’t think it might not happen where YOU live!

I have lived in the United States my entire life.

And there are other countries I have felt were similar to my own as far as being modern, forward-thinking, and intelligent. The United Kingdom is one.

But there is one area in the UK that is as close to the Dark Ages as it gets: the treatment of all forms and degrees of hypothyroidism.

Because of the British Thyroid Association (BTA) and the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) ‘guidance’ on the Diagnosis and Management of Primary Hypothyroidism, most UK doctors refuse to prescribe any form of  T3, whether adding synthetic T3 to one’s T4, or using natural desiccated thyroid, either because they have fallen in line like ducks in a row, or they fear for their job.

Why? Because “overwhelming evidence supports the use of Thyroxine (T4) alone in the treatment of hypothyroidism, and we do not recommend the prescribing of additional Triiodothyronine (T3) in any presently available formulation, including natural thyroid extract, as it is inconsistent with normal physiology, has not been scientifically proven to be of any benefit to patients, and may be harmful”.

Anybody puking yet??

And, says thyroid patient advocate Sheila Turner of TPA-UK, “never has the RCP, BTA  produced any of the ‘overwhelming evidence’ they claim as supporting the use of T4-only, even though they have been asked to do so on numerous occasions. Overwhelming evidence supports the use of synthetic T4/T3 and natural thyroid extract.”

And don’t think it won’t happen where YOU live. Stupidity can abound.

What to do about it?? Answer a short questionnaire, created by Sheila and TPA-UK, which is for those with symptoms of hypothyroidism when treated with T4-only, who then tried a T3 thyroid hormone product with success. “The results of this questionnaire will enable us to create the first ‘World-wide Register of Counterexamples to Levothyroxine (T4) – only therapy'”, underscores Sheila.The objective is to draw attention to the dire need for an urgent re-examination of the existing protocol for the diagnosis and management of the symptoms of hypothyroidism.”

Don’t wait until stupidity and narrow-mindedness comes to where you live, as it also has in the country of Columbia, where Cynomel (T3) was retired more than 10 years now.  Give this a voice NOW to head it off at the pass.

P.S. While you are at it, sign up with Dr. Skinner’s World Thyroid Register.

*****************************************

The STTM patient-to-patient website needs your help! I had to move the website to a far larger server in order to handle the immense amount of visits this site gets. And a larger server means higher yearly costs to host it. I can’t do it alone, as my money tree was killed by pine beetles and my husband won’t tell me what his Swiss Bank Account number is. So your donations can help keep Stop the Thyroid Madness up and running for yourself and other patients just like you! If you appreciate STTM, please go here to make a donation to the hosting fees. I do not get it! The hosting company does.

The large size STTM t-shirts are now gone. If you can wear an X-large or XX-large and want to spread the word to others, go here. And the bumper stickers REALLY catch attention!! I am stopped in parking lots because of mine. YOU could change someone’s life!

The Contact Me page on STTM hasn’t been working for weeks. And I didn’t know it. 🙁  But it’s fixed now.  Remember: it’s not to ask questions about your personal treatment. Those need to go here.

The STTM book helps in your doctor’s office. Have brain fog? Many patients are telling me they take the book right in the office, bookmarked. I can’t promise how your doctor will respond, but it’s been positive for most when a book is referred to right in front of the doc. I hope it helps you, too.  P.S. Only books ordered directly from the publishing company get a bookmark of updated info. That’s also true if you have a book sent to a relative or friend.